I know I had posted this a few months ago but I just did a nice high quality rip of the CD as well as a high quality scan of the cover so I wanted to get this posted to replace the old one. 4 songs of some of the toughest, straight edge hardcore you've ever heard. xLedx asked me to scan the insert with the lyrics so here you go.
Unconquered - You Say Moderation, I Scream Prohibition
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did a show for these guys in cleveland in like 97 or 98, they were super fun and nice. there was the fall silent beef but i dont know all the details about that...
The Fall Silent beef is because Unconquered were friends with the SLC kids and the SLC kids were a bunch of pussies and had to jump Fall Silent during one of their shows to SLC. Fall Silent has a song that's about the militant sxe movement and how lame it is. Levi of Fall Silent was edge, but the lyrics "FUCK YOUR MOVEMENT" upset the SLC kids and they jumped him during their set. Funny thing is, Levi thought they were just singing along so he kept singing and singing. The point is that the Unconquered guys are all about being militant while the Fall Silent guys didn't care who you were, they excepted you into their circle of friends. Does that make sense? So they never got along. Levi is married now, has 2 kids and is a high school teacher while dude from Unconquered is still harboring some sort of animosity towards the guys.
From the immortal words of Raybeez
We must be united as one
Think for yourself now
United we stand
Divided we fall
marktheshark that fight had nothing to do with unconquered and if i remember correctly when unconquered first played salt lake there was problems with them as well that lasted quite awhile.. And believe me when i say this when fall silent begged the kids to just let them leave they knew exactly what was happening.. besides if the slc kids were such pussies why did the rest of the band just let that happen? hahah they didnt do shit it was really quite amazing actually......
these dudes were super cool to Turmoil, and we (as a band) weren't edge at all.
The singer has always been a nice dude although there still seems to be this extremely small clique with a very ultra-conservative bent to it.
Fall Silent had different morals than Unconquered. That's all. They were asking to leave because SLC fights in numbers. Coming from Levi, he wasn't sure what was going on, neither was his band. So they continued to play.
i understand the difference in morals.. im just correcting a false statement is all it had nothing to do with unconquered... Not to take anything away from your close friendship with Levi but believe me the only reason they continued playing was to finish that song.. i do realize the story from his end sounds more nobel that they continued playing its just not the case.. i have yet to be around a group in any city that really considers a one on one fight it just doesnt happen that way while aggresive music is being played.. my only problem is you stated that slc kids are pussies... that was a shitty statement and you shouldnt say shit like that cause thats how problems begin... and please dont take this like im trying to start internet drama that shit stinks and is a bit ridiculous im just trying to correct and prevent rumors.
Not to argue and you're right, I don't know the SLC kids and it was a little immature of me to use such words. It is me sticking up for my friend, but where I came from, we didn't fight altogether. Every now and then we would, but it wouldn't be a beatdown. What the SLC kids have done, not only in this situation.....Sorry, this has nothing to do with Unconquered. Sometimes I type without thinking and hit "enter"
I was always under the impression that Turmoil were a straight edge band (at least at some point in time), but that's probably just because I bought a straight edge sticker from them the first time they played Portland in '98.
actually, fall silent and unconquered's beef is because damon watson, fs drummer, and levi's brother was sxe, while appearing to stay true to the x so to speak he apparently dealt drugs and did drugs...so program crew/reno sxe called him out on it..and fall silent never got the same respect in their hometown due to this..mainly because of the huge sxe scene reno has even to this day. i heard this directly from jason the vocalist from unconquered. he told me this personally at a show in sacto years ago. the slc beef was because of the "fuck your movement" meant as an attack to hardline dicks who used violence to get their point across, offended many in the sxe scene as a whole, thus ending up with trouble at shows especially in slc where hardline and militant sxe was a big deal. personally i feel everyone is entitled to choose the way they want to live their life sxe or not..fs was in some ways correct by taking a stand against hardline violence but at the same time..they disrespected what some held true..either way that shit happened years ago.
and for the record..FS still has tons of kids who love their music inside and outside of reno..even coming from jason's mouth..i don't know how true that story about damon is..it could've been said of out hate for levi or damon for persoanl reasons i dunno..all i know is that is one possible reason behind the reno sxe crew and slc's beef with FS.
one more thing..personally i like FS. i think levi wrote some of the most honest and thought provoking lyrics in hardcore and that says alot. it is no surprise that he became a teacher. he is a smart fellow. however..a last note on the slc drama involving the song "Looking In" it did take balls to play that song in slc period. however to defend slc.. when you have lyrics like that..in any particular song..why would you play that to a strong sxe based community? i respect FS for not backing down and their freedom to play that song whenever to whoever but being around since 94-95 i'm pretty sure they knew about the sxe types in slc..from what i was told the kids were just waiting for levi to shout that one phrase..and after he did the shit hit the fan..therefore the whole insident could have been avoided by just not playing "Looking In" knowing that those lyrics were going to offend people especially in slc...sorry this is the last novel
I used to work with Jason of Unconquered and he gave me a shout out at a show at Del Mar Station in Reno even though I had a smoke in one hand and a beer in the other
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